In an interview released Saturday, the former president stated that extraterrestrials exist, though he personally has not encountered them.

When progressive podcaster Brian Tyler Cohen questioned him about extraterrestrial life, the former president responded: “They’re real.”

“However, I haven’t seen them. They’re not being held at . There’s no secret underground base—unless there’s a massive conspiracy that concealed it from the President of the United States.”

The interviewer didn’t pose any additional questions about this subject.

The former president also addressed the recent dispatch of thousands of immigration officers to Minnesota, denouncing what he called the federal government’s “rogue behavior” throughout the months-long crackdown.

Obama likened the Trump Administration’s actions in Minnesota to conduct “observed in authoritarian nations and dictatorships, but not witnessed in America.”

“We must acknowledge the unprecedented nature of ICE’s activities in Minneapolis and St. Paul—how federal agents were deployed without proper guidelines or training, removing people from their homes, and using five-year-old children to lure their parents,” he said, referencing the case of .

“While the rogue conduct of federal agents is deeply troubling and hazardous, we should also recognize the remarkable wave of community organizing, neighborly support, and civic decency—people buying groceries for others, escorting children to school, teachers advocating for their students in a systematic, organized manner, and citizens declaring ‘this is not the America we believe in,'” he stated.

Obama, who was succeeded by Trump in 2017, had previously condemned the federal immigration operations in Minneapolis after the fatal shootings of Alex Pretti and Renee Good by federal officers.

In a joint statement with his wife Michelle following Pretti’s death, Obama asserted that Trump and his Administration officials “appear eager to intensify the situation” rather than “attempting to establish some level of discipline and accountability for the agents they’ve deployed.”

“This needs to end,” Obama said. “I would hope that following this latest tragedy, Administration officials would reevaluate their approach.”

On Thursday, the Trump Administration announced it is phasing out its large-scale immigration enforcement operation in Minnesota after months of turmoil over the excessive use of force by immigration officers in the state, including the fatal shootings of Pretti and Good.

“I have recommended and President Trump has agreed that this surge operation should end,” border czar Tom Homan informed journalists at a Minneapolis press conference on Thursday.

President Donald Trump dispatched Homan, his senior immigration advisor, to Minnesota to respond to widespread protests regarding the excessive use of force by immigration officers in the state. Homan assumed command of “Operation Metro Surge” from Border Patrol commander and promptly arranged meetings with local and state officials, including sheriffs, police chiefs, Governor Tim Walz, Minneapolis , and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison.

Obama also indirectly addressed the recent controversy surrounding a video shared by President Donald Trump that portrayed him and First Lady Michelle Obama as apes.

When questioned about the video, Obama remarked that there is a “kind of circus atmosphere occurring on social media and television.”

“The reality is that there appears to be no sense of shame about this among those who once believed you needed to maintain some level of decorum, propriety, and respect for the office. That standard has been lost,” he added.

Trump has declined to apologize for posting the video, claiming he directed a staff member to share it but that he himself had not viewed the offensive portion.

“I didn’t watch the entire video,” Trump stated. “I saw the beginning, which was about voter fraud in the machines, how corrupt it is, how appalling it is. Then I passed it along to my team. Normally they review the entire thing. But apparently someone didn’t.”

TIME has reached out to the White House for a response.